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Light Guidance on Civil and Progressive Discourse for the IPPG
From the discussion, "Reminder about Site Guidelines, Please Engage in Civil Discussion", Craig Zelizer, under whose aegis this site runs, suggested lifting what at the the moment are conclusions on it to this front-page kind of space.
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I (James) said:
We have pretty good body of talk from this group, from its start to today, so I will tack on here some practical guidance to help keep the daggers sheathed.
1. Address the issue, not the person.
a. In this category, I think we're going to be able to short list recurring themes, from "Holocaust denial" to denial of the potential or presence of accommodating personalities--we have a lot of lurkers here (about 80 members)--to have done with them, just as one retires trite and tired tropes.
2. Agendas. Reconsider one's own. In the ME Conflict, peace is not about "winning" or "prevailing"--in the modern way, it may turn out more about reflecting and redesigning, albeit with regional and global resonance.
3. From Landmark's mantras, remember: "Get off it" and "You don't know what you don't know"; also "Try not to put the past in front of you." Universally, we have our dark spaces (repair) and unconsidered dark spaces (find them), obsessions (modify), and grievances (let go a little): go through the baggage, lighten the load, and count on occassional moments of great insight.
4. Power is not necessarily Good and Good is not necessarily Power. Speak well and do good first and foremost.
Oliver said:
Thanks, Jim.
I think we both agree that moderation must be a bit more active from now on and that your first point ("address the issue, not the person") is the most important guideline of all.
Other points:
Be friendly. Be respectful. Be tolerant. Be open-minded. Don't judge people by what they say or how they say it. Try to engage, not to preach.
And always remember: 'Our' topic is one of the 'hottest' topics in international conflict studies. Everyone here can make a change by distancing oneself from the hardliners in the respective political and religious camps.
And Craig said:
Thanks. Maybe you can post this on the main page of the group.
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I say: done.
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I (James) said:
We have pretty good body of talk from this group, from its start to today, so I will tack on here some practical guidance to help keep the daggers sheathed.
1. Address the issue, not the person.
a. In this category, I think we're going to be able to short list recurring themes, from "Holocaust denial" to denial of the potential or presence of accommodating personalities--we have a lot of lurkers here (about 80 members)--to have done with them, just as one retires trite and tired tropes.
2. Agendas. Reconsider one's own. In the ME Conflict, peace is not about "winning" or "prevailing"--in the modern way, it may turn out more about reflecting and redesigning, albeit with regional and global resonance.
3. From Landmark's mantras, remember: "Get off it" and "You don't know what you don't know"; also "Try not to put the past in front of you." Universally, we have our dark spaces (repair) and unconsidered dark spaces (find them), obsessions (modify), and grievances (let go a little): go through the baggage, lighten the load, and count on occassional moments of great insight.
4. Power is not necessarily Good and Good is not necessarily Power. Speak well and do good first and foremost.
Oliver said:
Thanks, Jim.
I think we both agree that moderation must be a bit more active from now on and that your first point ("address the issue, not the person") is the most important guideline of all.
Other points:
Be friendly. Be respectful. Be tolerant. Be open-minded. Don't judge people by what they say or how they say it. Try to engage, not to preach.
And always remember: 'Our' topic is one of the 'hottest' topics in international conflict studies. Everyone here can make a change by distancing oneself from the hardliners in the respective political and religious camps.
And Craig said:
Thanks. Maybe you can post this on the main page of the group.
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I say: done.
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Comment by Linda Anani on January 15, 2010 at 1:51pm
- Thank you.
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Comment by James S. Oppenheim on January 14, 2010 at 3:13pm - By the way, this front comment section seems to have forgotten the Macabbees, and as for the region of time around 632, I didn't think the mandate limited to Mesopotamia and such. At the moment, it looks like the Persians have foresaken Persia and embraced some form of Arabia beyond Arabia. I generalize for effect, but the Iranian regime, if not the people, sure seems to be challenging Saudi Arabia over Islamic authenticity.
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Comment by James S. Oppenheim on January 14, 2010 at 3:04pm
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Oh no . . . I didn't scroll. So now we have the same guidance in comments as well as on top.
:)
I really do hope that the axis of the conflict will evolve and inescapable, physical geographical pressure -- pressure from the land itself -- will forge a more humanly responsive and responsible geopolitical model. When those who say "Go (forth)" to all realize they cannot go as far as they may wish while those who have said "Sit (forever)" learn that even sitting cannot go another generation, then there will be a new forward line in history.
That's it for me--I am done with platitudes for a day.
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Comment by Oliver Haack on January 14, 2010 at 2:18pm -
In light of recent events - see discussion: http://www.internationalpeaceandconflict.org/group/israelpalestinepeacegroup/forum/topics/remider-about-site-guidelines?page=1&commentId=780588%3AComment%3A211247&x=1#780588Comment211247
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In order to safeguard the existence of this group and to keep up some basic principles of how we should approach each other, please keep in mind the following points:
Address the issue, not the person.
Be friendly.
Be respectful.
Be tolerant.
Be open-minded.
Don't judge people by what they say or how they say it.
Try to engage, not to preach.
And always remember: 'Our' topic is one of the 'hottest' topics in international conflict studies. Everyone here can make a change by distancing oneself from the hardliners in the respective political and religious camps.
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Comment by Maor S on January 13, 2010 at 9:27am -
Ashraf,
Your knowledge in history and analytical skills were reviewd and criticized by me before in response to an essay you posted on your blog. My comments are valid for your comment here as well. You have not responded yet.
To answer your question - Muslims live in Israel and in the Palestinian territories - I believe the number is around 5 million today (versus around 6 million Jews). They should of course continue living there. You see, no need to bother the USA, the UK, or the UN with it.
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Comment by Md. Ashraf Hossain on January 13, 2010 at 9:01am - Palestine is a land for Muslims since 632 AD. The Palestinians have been living there since 1800 BC through the regime of Ibrahim, Musa, Daud, Solaiman Alaihissallam and Hazrat Muhammad (SM) uptil today. But this land has been being captured chronologically by the Jews communities since the frist zeonist movement in 1878. In 1917 the British soldiers entered the land and helped unscrupulously to enter the jews from elsewhere. If the Jews who declared Israeli Independence in 1948 have the right to live there why not the Muslims who have been living there for centuries. Who will give the answer? The USA, the UK, or the UN.
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Comment by Narda Azaria Dalgleish on January 12, 2010 at 8:05pm
- voted :)
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Comment by David Crier on January 12, 2010 at 7:55pm -
Please check out Mahmoud Jabari Blog http://www.mepeace.org/profiles/blog/list?user=3g70zmywqm87e He needs your vote so he can be choose to go to Davos Youth Forum. He needs your vote before the end of January.http://www.youtube.com/davos look for “Vote” If you are pro peace in the Palestinian-Israeli crisis vote yes
Hello Mahmoud Jabari
Thank-you for your words of inspiration, wisdom and hope. If more Palestinian voice like your could be heard outside Palestine. There would not be the Palestinian crisis we have today. Keep up the good faith and great work. Glad I met you on mepeace.org. it is a great platform to meet people working for Peace in Palestine. David Global Crier
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Comment by Md. Ashraf Hossain on September 25, 2009 at 8:35am
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Hi Ehtesham Ul Haq Tariq Thanks.
Ashraf Hossain
ashraf.bangladesh@yahoo.com
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Comment by James S. Oppenheim on September 24, 2009 at 11:19pm
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Web location of the Organization of the Islamic Conference:
http://www.oic-oci.org/
A defensive posture may make it difficult to acknowledge and wrestle with internal rivalries and live-fire conflicts that come down especially hard on innocents within and outside Islam. There seems also a great emphasis on force and approaching difficult issues as martial rather than cultural or intellectual challenges.
Perhaps states that have found their way to comparatively peaceful cooperation in development and union across a number of positive dimensions have worked at least since WWII methodically and systematically to obtain and preserve that state of affairs.
My father, God rest his soul, broke a lot of tools in his lifetime, and there are only two ways to break a tool: misapplication or too much force. Languages and governments are tools too and all pay a price when they're abused (as they may be with assorted kleptocracies) or, focused or obsessed with power, positioned as autocratic, unyielding, and belligerent.
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